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Chris Fox's avatar

If men want to take their genitals off with razor blades because they think it'll make them happier that's their business. I was clearly talking about girls many years shy of adulthood and following fads somewhat more consequential than a hair style or a favorite pop singer.

Where we part company on the "condition that most of us don't understand" part is engaging medical practitioners. I read an exchange from one of the social networks that kids use, someone had tracked down the information that would enable a 15yo girl to get a hysterectomy. Go to some web page, tick a few checkboxes, PayPal some money, get a certificate and a lot of surgeons will accept. Fifteen years old. I don't give a damn about understanding the condition, that should get the surgeon twenty years, not twenty grand. A child is incapable of that kind of decision, and young people are too sensitive to peer pressure and conformity to make choices like that.

Adulthood? It's your body to screw up. Knock yourself out, just don't look for sympathy when you end up ruined for life.

And as I keep saying, I think "trans" is at least 90% fad and probably several more nines, and I think that medical practice for such elective interventions needs to be strictly regulated and based on peer-reviewed criteria.

But then I think the same about virtual reality.

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Steve QJ's avatar

"A child is incapable of that kind of decision, and young people are too sensitive to peer pressure and conformity to make choices like that."

Yep, we've already agreed that this shouldn't be happening to children.

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jt's avatar

"Reconsidering Informed Consent for Trans-Identified Children, Adolescents, and Young Adults"

"In less than a decade, the western world has witnessed an unprecedented rise in the numbers of children and adolescents seeking gender transition. Despite the precedent of years of gender-affirmative care, the social, medical and surgical interventions are still based on very low-quality evidence. The many risks of these interventions, including medicalizing a temporary adolescent identity, have come into a clearer focus through an awareness of detransitioners."

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/0092623X.2022.2046221

I agree: "Adulthood? It's your body to screw up. Knock yourself out, just don't look for sympathy when you end up ruined for life."

I would just say "if/when" instead-a "when," but that's just me.

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Chris Fox's avatar

"temporary adolescent identity"

If a girl wants to listen to a Korean smile-band that's her business. If she wants to tattoo her face with their album cover, that should be denied.

But now she wants her uterus and breasts removed with as much good cause as listening to BTS: because all her friends do.

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