They can change what they say the Q means but we all know what it *did* mean. I accept that you really dislike the word and don't want it used to describe others; but I'm not convinced it means only what you say it means. Nor am I sure it really much matters *what* people are yelling at you when they beat you, guaranteed if they're calli…
They can change what they say the Q means but we all know what it *did* mean. I accept that you really dislike the word and don't want it used to describe others; but I'm not convinced it means only what you say it means. Nor am I sure it really much matters *what* people are yelling at you when they beat you, guaranteed if they're calling you 'Beethoven' while doing it, you will never think the same way about Beethoven again, and probably will never like his music as much as you did before, assuming you ever did.
I'm with you on cutting off the Q, but I don't know about the T. That's been there for awhile, and before transitioning became cool. So, for awhile I think, it referred to the few gender dysphorics or perhaps confused gay men who would understandably be embraced by a group of marginalized people who were a lot less extreme than they are now.
Maybe I'll cut off the Q, because frankly the whole damn long-ass acronym is just silly, and a testament to how self-absorbed and narcissistic the whole movement has become. Not to mention misogynist and anti-lesbian.
Self-absorbed, narcissistic, and tyrannical. Lists of strident demands, constantly lengthening the list of anathemized words (I don't try to keep up; I still say transvestite and transsexual), orthodoxy-policing, strident, and vain. How many bathrooms is a gas station required to have? A small business?
I've known many dysphoric men, dated two of them, and I probably care more about them than the vain woke crowd does but I also know that their concerns are, beyond support and sympathy, not mine. Both of those I dated have transitioned surgically and are probably married to men. As women.
I think the statistics tell the tale; the great majority of the Ts are fake and are making the claim for attention unless it's a transition to being gay, and if they emerge from that phase missing pieces they were born with, that is horrible.
Edit: I like Beethoven, but not just the Choral Symphony that made Alex go out the window. I like the quartets, the 7th, the chamber sonatas.
I stand by the history I recounted. The adoption of "queer" was purely intended to remain offensive in a society that no longer found homosexuality so alarming. My memory of this transition is crystal sharp.
Just as "unique" used to mean singular and now everyone thinks it means distinctive. I tell people what it's supposed to mean and they are completely unfamiliar with the definition.
Same happened to "queer," but you won't find many of us over 50 or so who don't remember what I'm talking about.
There's a common term for the trans tyrants Steve asked me to not use on here. Well, I am making the same request to you.
It's not a word I customarily use so it won't be much of a challenge. But I'm with Steve on the need to use it if you're talking about the school of thought, or the activist group. "Queer Theory" gets a lot of coverage in "Cynical Theories" about the woke left's obsession with critical everything theory so if a thread here breaks out about the book, you'll probably see the theory referenced a lot.
Yeah, I'm pretty clear on that, and like I said, not a problem because I never refer to them that way anyway...I never thought it was that offensive, I avoided it because I thought it was outdated. Also vague. When they added the Q to LGBT I thought it was redundant too, but though, well, maybe that'll catch all the other Others. Fat farkin' chance, now *everyone's* got to have their own letter just like when they were kids they all had to have their own trophies.
Back when it was only four (there were two Ts for a while as -vestities and -sexuals both wanted top billing, before the monosyllable) a lot of people dutifully permuted the order ... GBLT, BTLG ... and even in the mention on here that ticked me off they were alternated, T/Q. Q/T. That is just so compulsive.
I've never understood even why lesbians don't like being included under "gay." Gay men, gay women, what is the problem.
But that ever-lengthening acronym is just stupid, people of wildly differing interests and goals who have little to do with each other.
They can change what they say the Q means but we all know what it *did* mean. I accept that you really dislike the word and don't want it used to describe others; but I'm not convinced it means only what you say it means. Nor am I sure it really much matters *what* people are yelling at you when they beat you, guaranteed if they're calling you 'Beethoven' while doing it, you will never think the same way about Beethoven again, and probably will never like his music as much as you did before, assuming you ever did.
I'm with you on cutting off the Q, but I don't know about the T. That's been there for awhile, and before transitioning became cool. So, for awhile I think, it referred to the few gender dysphorics or perhaps confused gay men who would understandably be embraced by a group of marginalized people who were a lot less extreme than they are now.
Maybe I'll cut off the Q, because frankly the whole damn long-ass acronym is just silly, and a testament to how self-absorbed and narcissistic the whole movement has become. Not to mention misogynist and anti-lesbian.
Yep, I stop at the T. Q+ is basically straight people who think that threesome they nearly had one time is a personality.
That's good. Or the straight guy who closes his eyes and lets a gay man give him a BJ means he's edgy. Or even bi.
Self-absorbed, narcissistic, and tyrannical. Lists of strident demands, constantly lengthening the list of anathemized words (I don't try to keep up; I still say transvestite and transsexual), orthodoxy-policing, strident, and vain. How many bathrooms is a gas station required to have? A small business?
I've known many dysphoric men, dated two of them, and I probably care more about them than the vain woke crowd does but I also know that their concerns are, beyond support and sympathy, not mine. Both of those I dated have transitioned surgically and are probably married to men. As women.
I think the statistics tell the tale; the great majority of the Ts are fake and are making the claim for attention unless it's a transition to being gay, and if they emerge from that phase missing pieces they were born with, that is horrible.
Edit: I like Beethoven, but not just the Choral Symphony that made Alex go out the window. I like the quartets, the 7th, the chamber sonatas.
To be fair, gay men were pretty misogynistic and anti-lesbian from the get-go. Now the whole movement is.
I stand by the history I recounted. The adoption of "queer" was purely intended to remain offensive in a society that no longer found homosexuality so alarming. My memory of this transition is crystal sharp.
Just as "unique" used to mean singular and now everyone thinks it means distinctive. I tell people what it's supposed to mean and they are completely unfamiliar with the definition.
Same happened to "queer," but you won't find many of us over 50 or so who don't remember what I'm talking about.
There's a common term for the trans tyrants Steve asked me to not use on here. Well, I am making the same request to you.
It's not a word I customarily use so it won't be much of a challenge. But I'm with Steve on the need to use it if you're talking about the school of thought, or the activist group. "Queer Theory" gets a lot of coverage in "Cynical Theories" about the woke left's obsession with critical everything theory so if a thread here breaks out about the book, you'll probably see the theory referenced a lot.
I hope you know I can tell the difference between an externally created name and a deliberate reference to gay people in general.
Yeah, I'm pretty clear on that, and like I said, not a problem because I never refer to them that way anyway...I never thought it was that offensive, I avoided it because I thought it was outdated. Also vague. When they added the Q to LGBT I thought it was redundant too, but though, well, maybe that'll catch all the other Others. Fat farkin' chance, now *everyone's* got to have their own letter just like when they were kids they all had to have their own trophies.
Back when it was only four (there were two Ts for a while as -vestities and -sexuals both wanted top billing, before the monosyllable) a lot of people dutifully permuted the order ... GBLT, BTLG ... and even in the mention on here that ticked me off they were alternated, T/Q. Q/T. That is just so compulsive.
I've never understood even why lesbians don't like being included under "gay." Gay men, gay women, what is the problem.
But that ever-lengthening acronym is just stupid, people of wildly differing interests and goals who have little to do with each other.