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I don't understand this change of subject to proxy wars, we really haven't talked much about this, neither on here nor in private.

I'll respond briefly before going back to what we were debating.

One reason for hastening the Manhattan Project was to end the two theaters of war quickly, because Stalin was getting ready to mobilize and he had, what, a hundred divisions. As Henry Stimson said to Leslie Groves, "who knows where he'll stop." Who knows where Putin will stop? He's a butcher, and he's dying. There is nothing to restrain him.

Conservatives. During the invasion of Vietnam the sentiment was "let's go all out and WIN in Vietnam." With Ukraine, "it's not our fight. Let Putin have it because, hey, Russia isn't so bad after all. Trump says so." Incoherent.

Conservatives revere individualism but despise individuality. Incoherent.

Conservatives gush and gurgle over freedom (largely synonymous with gun ownership and reverence for lying), yet strive to dismantle democracy and establish religious authoritarianism with a lot of executions. Incoherent.

Kids in cages. Women as baby factories, Shall not be infringed. Wage slavery. Bigotry of every kind and a few new ones. Kindness is weakness. Education is indocrination.

I could go on. OK, stereotypes, but far more real than imaginary.

On the other side? Republicans telling them that coastal elites are looking down their noses at Decent Hardworking Americans, as those same Republicans can't hide their contempt for people stupid enough to vote for them.

How exactly is contempt unmerited?

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