"Attacks on young boys are naturally going to skew heavily towards gay men."
This is completely false. Homosexual men are attracted to men, men with adult male characteristics. We are not attracted to prepubscents because they lack the characteristics that arouse us.
It is facile (please note my restraint, Steve, because this really piss…
"Attacks on young boys are naturally going to skew heavily towards gay men."
This is completely false. Homosexual men are attracted to men, men with adult male characteristics. We are not attracted to prepubscents because they lack the characteristics that arouse us.
It is facile (please note my restraint, Steve, because this really pisses me off) to make such a simplistic assumption as "men who molest young boys must be gay." In reality the pedophile population is much more heterosexual than the general population and the stimulus is not the gender of their victims, but their helplessness. A pedophile often lives a purely heterosexual life, married with children, but has a private life preying on children, usually without much discrimination based on gender.
This libel has been applied to gay men for generations and it's time to stop it.
"It is facile (please note my restraint, Steve, because this really pisses me off) to make such a simplistic assumption as 'men who molest young boys must be gay.'"
I both appreciate the restraint and apologise for not taking issue with it in the conversation. I did notice it, but was so overwhelmed by the sheer volume of stupid, offensive things he was saying that I couldn't keep track of them all. This deserved to be challenged however.
Yes, I completely agree. This idea that gay men are somehow more likely to abuse children is absolutely gross. Plural doesn't really present himself as an enlightened soul here. So I'm not shocked that he's bought into this kind of homophobia.
What I learned when reading about the Catholic Church's pedophiles is that priests don't necessarily have to be gay to go after young boys (at that time, it was estimated about half of priests were gay...this was like 25, 30 years ago). Some, of course, did go after little/young girls but many went after boys/young men for a variety of reasons - gayness being only one of them. Other reasons included not being clear on their sexuality, not being properly trained for the priesthood (at that time there was *zero* training on how to handle eternal singlehood and fleshly desires), some who were simply sexually inexperienced. One sick practical reason was that boys are less likely to tell than girls, and don't have a telltale hymen to break.
I suspect that goes for the population at large. You're right, you don't have to be gay to go after your own sex - some men are on the down low, and others explore while married (think of all the Christian 'family values' politicians caught porkin' dudes somewhere).
In the past I mentioned that as a teenage hitchhiker gay men solicited sex for money. It was not a matter of them having short eyes. I was legally a boy but not pre-pubecent. I actually fit The demographic of male prostitutes. The issue was that it is far more likely that a man will solicit sex for money than women and a gay man will therefore seek a male prostitute. Not an indictment of homosexuality, but of men.
When I mentioned that you didn't cop an attitude. You probably understood the context, rather than a requirement for personal restraint on your part. At least I hope so.
Why would I cop an attitude? I had no reason to doubt your veracity and I know some men do this. I don't like it, I've never done it, but it's completely different from being attracted to and forcibly molesting prepubescent boys. The latter is an incurable mental illness.
I never had anyone come on to me until I was at least in my 20s ... anoymous phone calls from guys who had seen me at the gym showers and called to tell me they wanted to ... well. Probably the same as you. Then hung up.
"Attacks on young boys are naturally going to skew heavily towards gay men."
This is completely false. Homosexual men are attracted to men, men with adult male characteristics. We are not attracted to prepubscents because they lack the characteristics that arouse us.
It is facile (please note my restraint, Steve, because this really pisses me off) to make such a simplistic assumption as "men who molest young boys must be gay." In reality the pedophile population is much more heterosexual than the general population and the stimulus is not the gender of their victims, but their helplessness. A pedophile often lives a purely heterosexual life, married with children, but has a private life preying on children, usually without much discrimination based on gender.
This libel has been applied to gay men for generations and it's time to stop it.
"It is facile (please note my restraint, Steve, because this really pisses me off) to make such a simplistic assumption as 'men who molest young boys must be gay.'"
I both appreciate the restraint and apologise for not taking issue with it in the conversation. I did notice it, but was so overwhelmed by the sheer volume of stupid, offensive things he was saying that I couldn't keep track of them all. This deserved to be challenged however.
Yes, I completely agree. This idea that gay men are somehow more likely to abuse children is absolutely gross. Plural doesn't really present himself as an enlightened soul here. So I'm not shocked that he's bought into this kind of homophobia.
What I learned when reading about the Catholic Church's pedophiles is that priests don't necessarily have to be gay to go after young boys (at that time, it was estimated about half of priests were gay...this was like 25, 30 years ago). Some, of course, did go after little/young girls but many went after boys/young men for a variety of reasons - gayness being only one of them. Other reasons included not being clear on their sexuality, not being properly trained for the priesthood (at that time there was *zero* training on how to handle eternal singlehood and fleshly desires), some who were simply sexually inexperienced. One sick practical reason was that boys are less likely to tell than girls, and don't have a telltale hymen to break.
I suspect that goes for the population at large. You're right, you don't have to be gay to go after your own sex - some men are on the down low, and others explore while married (think of all the Christian 'family values' politicians caught porkin' dudes somewhere).
In the past I mentioned that as a teenage hitchhiker gay men solicited sex for money. It was not a matter of them having short eyes. I was legally a boy but not pre-pubecent. I actually fit The demographic of male prostitutes. The issue was that it is far more likely that a man will solicit sex for money than women and a gay man will therefore seek a male prostitute. Not an indictment of homosexuality, but of men.
When I mentioned that you didn't cop an attitude. You probably understood the context, rather than a requirement for personal restraint on your part. At least I hope so.
Why would I cop an attitude? I had no reason to doubt your veracity and I know some men do this. I don't like it, I've never done it, but it's completely different from being attracted to and forcibly molesting prepubescent boys. The latter is an incurable mental illness.
I never had anyone come on to me until I was at least in my 20s ... anoymous phone calls from guys who had seen me at the gym showers and called to tell me they wanted to ... well. Probably the same as you. Then hung up.
No ideas how they got my phone.