Group 1: This goes to the heart if the issue of trans-what? People who are genuinely gender dysphoric have it tough and I don't want to make it tougher. Before transition surgery they must "live as a woman (or man)" which is met with resistance in the case of trans-women and may have danger for the trans-man. They are the real trans-persons but not the only ones.
Group 2: The enhanced transvestite with silicone breasts and some of which have a face that can "pass." A trip to a pornography site will reveal this trans group as retaining fully functional male sexual ability. For the most part homosexuals who may pose no danger to women if their sexual interest is in men. But they are functionally male.
Group 3: The fad group. Not really gender dysphoric, but could be a danger to themselves, or their children if puberty blockers or surgery takes place before they discover that they are really not gender dysphoric. As Bill Maher quipped, "If kids knew what they wanted to be at the age of eight, the world would be filled with cowboys and princesses. I wanted to be a pirate. Thank God nobody took me seriously and scheduled me for eye removal and peg leg surgery."
Group 4: And then there is another trans, the one at issue in this discussion. Predators seeking access to spaces where women are most vulnerable.
I don't know what the percentages the greater trans population is made up of. They all present different challenges. Finding a place in a society not fully accepting their condition (group 1), danger to themselves (group 2 violence from a deceived sex partner) or to themselves in the case of reckless medical intervention (group 3), or possible danger to women (group 4).
My go with plumbing solution is a hardship for the true transexual who must live as their new gender. Transvestites in Thailand don't seem to find that as an obstacle. I don't know what to say about the faddish except that I feel sorry for them if the end of the road is ruin. Pragmatically the best solution for the group 4 predators.
All that to say, what do you mean by trans? We could be discussing different things. I didn't even list the "activists" with that.
Group 2: last I read most transvestites are heterosexual
Group 5: the "nonbinary" claiming intermediate gender. Some of them extending this to claiming intermediate biological gender with absolutely zero physical or genetic corroboration yet flying into rages (with lots of 2-5 company) if this claim is questioned. The most strident pushers of the "they/them" horseshit. 100% fake and universally demanding an extra ration of special attention from everyone/
Group 6: want nothing to do with sex, either in the gender sense or the intercourse sense.
That's news to me, but I've made no attempt to gather statistics since they would be the result of self-reporting which is unreliable in my opinion. Your comments are to the point. My incomplete list is just to say that the trans group is not a monolith. Group 1 & 4 present issues hard to reconcile, especially with the others muddying the water.
"𝘙𝘦𝘢𝘭 𝘥𝘺𝘴𝘱𝘩𝘰𝘳𝘪𝘤 𝘱𝘦𝘰𝘱𝘭𝘦 𝘩𝘢𝘷𝘦 𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘪𝘳 𝘰𝘸𝘯 𝘱𝘳𝘰𝘣𝘭𝘦𝘮𝘴 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘸𝘩𝘢𝘵 𝘴𝘤𝘢𝘯𝘵 𝘳𝘦𝘴𝘰𝘶𝘳𝘤𝘦𝘴 𝘢𝘳𝘦 𝘢𝘷𝘢𝘪𝘭𝘢𝘣𝘭𝘦 𝘵𝘰 𝘩𝘦𝘭𝘱 𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘮 𝘢𝘳𝘦 𝘣𝘦𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘴𝘲𝘶𝘢𝘯𝘥𝘦𝘳𝘦𝘥 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘸𝘢𝘴𝘵𝘦𝘥 𝘣𝘺 𝘱𝘦𝘰𝘱𝘭𝘦 𝘸𝘩𝘰 𝘫𝘶𝘴𝘵 𝘸𝘢𝘯𝘵 𝘢𝘵𝘵𝘦𝘯𝘵𝘪𝘰𝘯 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘩𝘢𝘷𝘦 𝘧𝘰𝘶𝘯𝘥 𝘢 𝘸𝘢𝘺 𝘵𝘰 𝘨𝘦𝘵 𝘪𝘵."
Group 1: This goes to the heart if the issue of trans-what? People who are genuinely gender dysphoric have it tough and I don't want to make it tougher. Before transition surgery they must "live as a woman (or man)" which is met with resistance in the case of trans-women and may have danger for the trans-man. They are the real trans-persons but not the only ones.
Group 2: The enhanced transvestite with silicone breasts and some of which have a face that can "pass." A trip to a pornography site will reveal this trans group as retaining fully functional male sexual ability. For the most part homosexuals who may pose no danger to women if their sexual interest is in men. But they are functionally male.
Group 3: The fad group. Not really gender dysphoric, but could be a danger to themselves, or their children if puberty blockers or surgery takes place before they discover that they are really not gender dysphoric. As Bill Maher quipped, "If kids knew what they wanted to be at the age of eight, the world would be filled with cowboys and princesses. I wanted to be a pirate. Thank God nobody took me seriously and scheduled me for eye removal and peg leg surgery."
Group 4: And then there is another trans, the one at issue in this discussion. Predators seeking access to spaces where women are most vulnerable.
I don't know what the percentages the greater trans population is made up of. They all present different challenges. Finding a place in a society not fully accepting their condition (group 1), danger to themselves (group 2 violence from a deceived sex partner) or to themselves in the case of reckless medical intervention (group 3), or possible danger to women (group 4).
My go with plumbing solution is a hardship for the true transexual who must live as their new gender. Transvestites in Thailand don't seem to find that as an obstacle. I don't know what to say about the faddish except that I feel sorry for them if the end of the road is ruin. Pragmatically the best solution for the group 4 predators.
All that to say, what do you mean by trans? We could be discussing different things. I didn't even list the "activists" with that.
Group 2: last I read most transvestites are heterosexual
Group 5: the "nonbinary" claiming intermediate gender. Some of them extending this to claiming intermediate biological gender with absolutely zero physical or genetic corroboration yet flying into rages (with lots of 2-5 company) if this claim is questioned. The most strident pushers of the "they/them" horseshit. 100% fake and universally demanding an extra ration of special attention from everyone/
Group 6: want nothing to do with sex, either in the gender sense or the intercourse sense.
"𝘭𝘢𝘴𝘵 𝘐 𝘳𝘦𝘢𝘥 𝘮𝘰𝘴𝘵 𝘵𝘳𝘢𝘯𝘴𝘷𝘦𝘴𝘵𝘪𝘵𝘦𝘴 𝘢𝘳𝘦 𝘩𝘦𝘵𝘦𝘳𝘰𝘴𝘦𝘹𝘶𝘢𝘭"
That's news to me, but I've made no attempt to gather statistics since they would be the result of self-reporting which is unreliable in my opinion. Your comments are to the point. My incomplete list is just to say that the trans group is not a monolith. Group 1 & 4 present issues hard to reconcile, especially with the others muddying the water.