"So then you agree with me that appeals to the bottom?"
Well, it depends how you define "bottom." Happy, content, confident, well-adjusted men are obviously not drawn to a man like Tate. But there are many reasons men might nor be happy and confident and well-adjusted.
Tate says a lot of things. He also advocates for men to be strong and d…
"So then you agree with me that appeals to the bottom?"
Well, it depends how you define "bottom." Happy, content, confident, well-adjusted men are obviously not drawn to a man like Tate. But there are many reasons men might nor be happy and confident and well-adjusted.
Tate says a lot of things. He also advocates for men to be strong and driven and find purpose. This isn't bad advice in itself. It's the way one pursues these things that matters. So again, if men feel lost, they'll gravitate towards a man who says, "this is how to not feel lost." And they, like almost everybody, are willing to overlook some things they disagree with if they agree with other things.
Again, none of what I'm saying is a defence of Tate. Literally the very first thing I said to you was that I'm not defending Tate. I'm speaking against this, in my view ridiculous, habit of blaming young men for the worst actions of a few of them throughout history.
"He could be wrong about this."
Yeah, absolutely. I strongly suspect he *is* wrong. A sudden breakup could have many causes, many of which probably have little to do with him. But it's also human nature to try to find an explanation for painful things to avoid a repeat of that pain in future.
And it's true that many women don't want a man to be too "nice." Especially younger women. This puts young men in a difficult position. They're the ones expected to do 90% of the pursuing, following rules that the young women around them set, but that are very difficult for many of them to understand. And, of course, are different for each woman.
I'm pretty confident every man you know can relate to this on some level. Even those who are evolved enough to see through Tate's bullshit.
Pain makes people especially vulnerable to bad ideas. Because they're desperate to avoid that pain again. And it also makes them especially sensitive to attacks. Especially attacks that make absolutely no sense. So again, the point I'm making is that this failure to even try to understand why some young men are struggling, in part, drives some of them towards men like Tate. I'm not saying it's right or good, I'm saying it's inevitable. And frustratingly enough, quite easily avoidable.
"So then you agree with me that appeals to the bottom?"
Well, it depends how you define "bottom." Happy, content, confident, well-adjusted men are obviously not drawn to a man like Tate. But there are many reasons men might nor be happy and confident and well-adjusted.
Tate says a lot of things. He also advocates for men to be strong and driven and find purpose. This isn't bad advice in itself. It's the way one pursues these things that matters. So again, if men feel lost, they'll gravitate towards a man who says, "this is how to not feel lost." And they, like almost everybody, are willing to overlook some things they disagree with if they agree with other things.
Again, none of what I'm saying is a defence of Tate. Literally the very first thing I said to you was that I'm not defending Tate. I'm speaking against this, in my view ridiculous, habit of blaming young men for the worst actions of a few of them throughout history.
"He could be wrong about this."
Yeah, absolutely. I strongly suspect he *is* wrong. A sudden breakup could have many causes, many of which probably have little to do with him. But it's also human nature to try to find an explanation for painful things to avoid a repeat of that pain in future.
And it's true that many women don't want a man to be too "nice." Especially younger women. This puts young men in a difficult position. They're the ones expected to do 90% of the pursuing, following rules that the young women around them set, but that are very difficult for many of them to understand. And, of course, are different for each woman.
I'm pretty confident every man you know can relate to this on some level. Even those who are evolved enough to see through Tate's bullshit.
Pain makes people especially vulnerable to bad ideas. Because they're desperate to avoid that pain again. And it also makes them especially sensitive to attacks. Especially attacks that make absolutely no sense. So again, the point I'm making is that this failure to even try to understand why some young men are struggling, in part, drives some of them towards men like Tate. I'm not saying it's right or good, I'm saying it's inevitable. And frustratingly enough, quite easily avoidable.
Young men and women are struggling for the same reasons. But they blame it on different things.