"The same men who take her agency away? The same men who Weinstein women behind closed hotel doors (apologies to all the good Weinsteins, rape, pillage, plunder and steal (h/t to Pirates of the Caribbean for dat), start wars, pay women 20-25% less than men...you mean, THOSE men?"
I'm not sure where you're coming from here. I obviously hav…
"The same men who take her agency away? The same men who Weinstein women behind closed hotel doors (apologies to all the good Weinsteins, rape, pillage, plunder and steal (h/t to Pirates of the Caribbean for dat), start wars, pay women 20-25% less than men...you mean, THOSE men?"
I'm not sure where you're coming from here. I obviously haven't suggested anything like this😅
These kinds of men might be unreachable, but as I said, and as I'm sure is obvious to you, most men aren't in this category. I just think one of the key failings among these broadly decent men is that they don't empathise with women and the ways in which their lives might differ. Unfortunately, if the women speaking to them speak like Dianne, these men are far less likely to listen.
The "trans debate" is an excellent example of this. I'm frequently astounded by how many men don't understand why a woman might be uncomfortable with somebody with a penis in a private space like a changing room or a rape crisis centre, for example. "I'd be fine," the men think to themselves, "so why aren't women?" This is just one of many examples.
I think an honest, compassionate, non-confrontational dialogue between men and women would be so transformative as far as men understanding why women react in certain ways and women understanding why men act in certain ways. The men idolising Andrew Tate need this just as much as women like Dianne.
"The same men who take her agency away? The same men who Weinstein women behind closed hotel doors (apologies to all the good Weinsteins, rape, pillage, plunder and steal (h/t to Pirates of the Caribbean for dat), start wars, pay women 20-25% less than men...you mean, THOSE men?"
I'm not sure where you're coming from here. I obviously haven't suggested anything like this😅
These kinds of men might be unreachable, but as I said, and as I'm sure is obvious to you, most men aren't in this category. I just think one of the key failings among these broadly decent men is that they don't empathise with women and the ways in which their lives might differ. Unfortunately, if the women speaking to them speak like Dianne, these men are far less likely to listen.
The "trans debate" is an excellent example of this. I'm frequently astounded by how many men don't understand why a woman might be uncomfortable with somebody with a penis in a private space like a changing room or a rape crisis centre, for example. "I'd be fine," the men think to themselves, "so why aren't women?" This is just one of many examples.
I think an honest, compassionate, non-confrontational dialogue between men and women would be so transformative as far as men understanding why women react in certain ways and women understanding why men act in certain ways. The men idolising Andrew Tate need this just as much as women like Dianne.