I know a little of LGB Alliance and just looked up #LGBwithout. They are taking truly punishing heat--maybe the worst. You should see Reddit. I have corresponded with a number of Gs and Ls, mostly on Substack, who tell me that they privately are appalled at T activist positions, as are many of their friends, but they are terrified of spe…
I know a little of LGB Alliance and just looked up #LGBwithout. They are taking truly punishing heat--maybe the worst. You should see Reddit. I have corresponded with a number of Gs and Ls, mostly on Substack, who tell me that they privately are appalled at T activist positions, as are many of their friends, but they are terrified of speaking out.
This is consistent with Jonathan Haidt's observation that the most vituperative and cruel cancellations occur against dissidents "within the ranks." That is because only "within the ranks" cancellation can result in virtually complete social ostracism. Only your former "friends" are capable of that.
So, that is the stage we are in. But with greater numbers, the cancellations become less effective as the dissidents are less isolated.
As you know, I published a conversation with Brynoa. I said that I wouldn't use it to trash her and intended to let readers decide if her claims were fabulous, so I limited my comments with you to stay true to my word. It is becoming difficult to maintain politeness when claims go over the top.
I am an outsider who has not been elected speaker for LGB but I can't help but think that the T becoming the mouth of pride is not something that is helpful to LGB. Add to that the addition of new madeup subgroups to the community that isn't actually a community and you have a clusterfuck.
I certainly agree with the latter of your two paragraphs.
As for Bryona, I wish her the best. But I'm not going to self-censor to spare her or anyone else's feelings, though I endeavor to be civil when expressing my opinion. That this self-censorship is now "expected" among many people in 2023 is a bane of our times. All this crap about "safe spaces" and microaggressions and exaggerated claims of "genocide" and "trauma" and whatnot. Read Haidt's "The Coddling of the American Mind" for why it is so destructive of truth, freedom and humanity itself.
I have read some of Bryona's Substack writings. She is a good and sensitive writer, despite my severe misgivings about her empirical claims. Did you know that she was nearly 70 years old when she transitioned?
Yes. I asked if she thought that the various things she revealed were a factor in her successful transition. I don't think she really did say. Her transition was very different than what it would have been with the small genital tissue of a child. I mentioned that with no response. My voiced concerns that were not held back was my thoughts on transitioning children. I don't buy the, they know what they are as toddlers thing. I don't foresee myself ever thinking that a child should make such a critical decision as genital surgery.
I didn't know she was on substack. The "I have a prostate and vagina" response to my statement that drew her response was a hook that led me to not discourage discussion with the usual "Transphobe!" cry.
I know a little of LGB Alliance and just looked up #LGBwithout. They are taking truly punishing heat--maybe the worst. You should see Reddit. I have corresponded with a number of Gs and Ls, mostly on Substack, who tell me that they privately are appalled at T activist positions, as are many of their friends, but they are terrified of speaking out.
This is consistent with Jonathan Haidt's observation that the most vituperative and cruel cancellations occur against dissidents "within the ranks." That is because only "within the ranks" cancellation can result in virtually complete social ostracism. Only your former "friends" are capable of that.
So, that is the stage we are in. But with greater numbers, the cancellations become less effective as the dissidents are less isolated.
As you know, I published a conversation with Brynoa. I said that I wouldn't use it to trash her and intended to let readers decide if her claims were fabulous, so I limited my comments with you to stay true to my word. It is becoming difficult to maintain politeness when claims go over the top.
I am an outsider who has not been elected speaker for LGB but I can't help but think that the T becoming the mouth of pride is not something that is helpful to LGB. Add to that the addition of new madeup subgroups to the community that isn't actually a community and you have a clusterfuck.
I certainly agree with the latter of your two paragraphs.
As for Bryona, I wish her the best. But I'm not going to self-censor to spare her or anyone else's feelings, though I endeavor to be civil when expressing my opinion. That this self-censorship is now "expected" among many people in 2023 is a bane of our times. All this crap about "safe spaces" and microaggressions and exaggerated claims of "genocide" and "trauma" and whatnot. Read Haidt's "The Coddling of the American Mind" for why it is so destructive of truth, freedom and humanity itself.
I have read some of Bryona's Substack writings. She is a good and sensitive writer, despite my severe misgivings about her empirical claims. Did you know that she was nearly 70 years old when she transitioned?
I certainly don't expect self-censorship from you or anyone else. I was good with you replying since I was expecting different responses, if any.
Yes. I asked if she thought that the various things she revealed were a factor in her successful transition. I don't think she really did say. Her transition was very different than what it would have been with the small genital tissue of a child. I mentioned that with no response. My voiced concerns that were not held back was my thoughts on transitioning children. I don't buy the, they know what they are as toddlers thing. I don't foresee myself ever thinking that a child should make such a critical decision as genital surgery.
I didn't know she was on substack. The "I have a prostate and vagina" response to my statement that drew her response was a hook that led me to not discourage discussion with the usual "Transphobe!" cry.