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Chris Fox's avatar

You shouldn't waste your time trying to explain basics to someone who hasn't taken the trouble to learn anything. "Mental illness" incles maladies that lead people to erupt into violence for no reason. I was nearly murdered by a roommate who deteriorated before my eyes into a helpless schizophrenic. When you see a knife miss you by inches and go into the wall up to the hilt, you don't quibble about sparing the mentally ill any judgment.

I'm sure you know about the MMPI. It needs to constantly be renormalized as we keep on getting crazier.

We accept far too much, and I don't just mean attention-starved people claiming "trans." Change a few words of what religious people believe without substantively changing their beliefs and you could commit them to mental institutions. But we accept this.

And I am not saying we need to expect everyone to think logically; logic is learned, not inborn. But that's another topic.

We, as a world, are getting crazier. Look at the House of Representatives. Jewish space lasers, white supremacy. Look at "woke." Look at the collapsing ecosystem.

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Miguelitro's avatar

Kanye is not just anyone. He is a very public figure with a huge platform and the ear of former Presidents. He is therefore fair game, whatever his mental condition is.

Yes, kind lies are still lies. Civilized society would likely be impossible without some measure of lying. You don't really want to tell your dinner host that your dinner made you want to puke.

But there are limits. You don't want your doctor to refrain from telling you that you are on the verge of liver failure to avoid upsetting you. You want to be told to cut out the booze. Nor do you want to tell children that they all are "champions" because you then cheapen the will to succeed. If truth telling is equated to "violence," we will, as a culture, become delusional and therefore much weaker. Yet that is precisely what is happening now in Anglophone cultures.

As you also point out, lying about reality is also a way of signaling "belonging" to a tribe or ideology. Humans are profoundly mimetic, and ostracism for failure to adhere to the fictions of an ideology is a central method of achieving group cohesion through scapegoating.

In other words, it takes quite a bit of courage--and perhaps an independent income--to speak the truth. But I personally feel that a minority of people are just wired that way and damn the consequences. There are a few of these people who become leaders. But many will just suffer because the majority could care less about the truth--they just want approval. And the majority will punish. Maybe "the truth shall set you free," but not always in a good way.

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