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Matt's avatar

This reminded me of two cases where activists try so hard to prove their point that they throw their own definitions out the window, and expose the flaws in their reasoning.

Back in 2022 a local publication, in an attempt to prove that trans people have Always Been With Us, profiled some woman from the 19th century who disguised herself as a man so she could get a good job and marry the woman she loved. It was perfectly clear from the context that this was nothing more than a disguise, intended to fool people into believing she was a man, but she was nevertheless hailed as a trans hero.

Another example is when people are called "transphobic" if they object to drag performances for children.

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Steve QJ's avatar

“Another example is when people are called "transphobic" if they object to drag performances for children.”

This, especially, is so weird to me. Drag queens are literally men in dresses. That’s what they describe themselves as.

To argue that objecting to these men cavorting in front of children is “transphobic” is…interesting.

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Matt's avatar

I've seen references to the concept of the "trans umbrella" that includes drag queens/kings, transvestites, cross-dressers, etc. I think that's an attempt to make the trans community seem more robust but instead it dilutes it all to meaninglessness.

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Chris Fox's avatar

By removing both -vestite and -sexual, the size of the group (and, more to the point, the activists' audiences) is artificially enlarged.

Everything to do with "trans" is about getting attention. The identity part is nothing but a pretext for outrage, which itself is just another way to get attention.

I doubt I could endure an American workplace now.

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Lightwing's avatar

Exhibit A: https://www.womenarehuman.com/under-transgender-theory-women-and-girls-are-passive-objects-enabling-male-escapism/ You've probably already read this but if not, it makes your point quite well.

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Lightwing's avatar

Drag is a sexual fetish - which is fine. I'm not here to rain on any adult's consensual kink. But sexual fetishes are NOT for kids. Jeez Louise.

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Chris Fox's avatar

Transvestites are men who enjoy dressing as women. I knew dozens of them in Norfolk when I came out, I never met one who claimed to 𝑏𝑒 a woman. To have transubstantiated into being female by putting on a dress.

A few months ago I regarded these shows as harmless, men caricaturing women so gaudily that it was akin to a circus act, but some of the arguments I've read since have changed my mind.

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