“ Living in harmony? KKK rose after the war, Jim Crow laws were extremely repressive, the lynching of Blacks, blocking voter registrations in the south, Segregation in schools, the summer of '67 riots across the country, BLM riots in Portland, OR and other cities, George Floyd death with associated riots.”
“ Living in harmony? KKK rose after the war, Jim Crow laws were extremely repressive, the lynching of Blacks, blocking voter registrations in the south, Segregation in schools, the summer of '67 riots across the country, BLM riots in Portland, OR and other cities, George Floyd death with associated riots.”
Haha, yeah, you don’t have to tell me about any of this. I wasn’t saying everything was perfect. I’m saying the war ended and black people didn’t seek vengeance against white people. The things you mention are almost all examples of white Americans reacting out of fear of a black backlash that never came. And before the stupidity of last 10-15 years or so, race relations were far better than they are now.
The main point I’m making is that I think the same would happen in Israel. The chief justification for the blockade and the checkpoints and the West Bank barrier is that Palestinians would slaughter Israelis without them. But I think if Israel ended the occupation and gave Palestinians equal rights in Israel and a contiguous state, the violence would almost completely stop.
I have no way to prove that obviously, other than that in mixed towns where Jews and Arabs currently live side by side, there is (mostly) peace. And when there isn’t, it seems to be more often than not Israelis starting the fighting.
p.s. African Americans fought in the civil war from mid-1962.
I agree some African Americans after the war started, they were small and brave groups... some even fought for the South (that I don’t understand).
Hamas is both a political and military entity... the Slaves were people who had bondage, origin, and skin color in common but zero level of collective organization. Netanyahu is responsible for Hamas having the ability to do that despicable act; he gave permission for release of funds and the ability to represent them in order to provide a counterbalance to the West Bank regime.
Nonetheless, the Palestinians have had their own bondage since 1967.
By the way, I have no disagreement with your characterization of the reaction of the South and your other statements. The sad truth is that we(USA) proclaim ourselves as the guardian of democracy but we don’t even teach our children about the abuses that was unleashed on the Slaves and the Native Americans throughout the years in our public schools... I can’t even imagine what it’s like in charter schools.
I majored in Geography with emphasis on the Middle East and North Africa with a minor in Recent American History back in the early 70’s. Very little has changed in the Middle East since then but a ton has been accomplished to move the needle for Blacks in America.
As long as Saudi Arabia is “hands off”, the balance of power will remain intact.
As an aside, my favorite History Professor had us read: ‘Soul on Ice’, ‘Autobiography of Malcolm X’, ‘One Flew Over the Cuckoo Nest’, ‘Trout Fishing in America’, and a few others that actually put recent history in perspective of a controlled population. Even 50 years ago we had idealistic professors who were not afraid to give protected white kids a true education.
“ Living in harmony? KKK rose after the war, Jim Crow laws were extremely repressive, the lynching of Blacks, blocking voter registrations in the south, Segregation in schools, the summer of '67 riots across the country, BLM riots in Portland, OR and other cities, George Floyd death with associated riots.”
Haha, yeah, you don’t have to tell me about any of this. I wasn’t saying everything was perfect. I’m saying the war ended and black people didn’t seek vengeance against white people. The things you mention are almost all examples of white Americans reacting out of fear of a black backlash that never came. And before the stupidity of last 10-15 years or so, race relations were far better than they are now.
The main point I’m making is that I think the same would happen in Israel. The chief justification for the blockade and the checkpoints and the West Bank barrier is that Palestinians would slaughter Israelis without them. But I think if Israel ended the occupation and gave Palestinians equal rights in Israel and a contiguous state, the violence would almost completely stop.
I have no way to prove that obviously, other than that in mixed towns where Jews and Arabs currently live side by side, there is (mostly) peace. And when there isn’t, it seems to be more often than not Israelis starting the fighting.
p.s. African Americans fought in the civil war from mid-1962.
I agree some African Americans after the war started, they were small and brave groups... some even fought for the South (that I don’t understand).
Hamas is both a political and military entity... the Slaves were people who had bondage, origin, and skin color in common but zero level of collective organization. Netanyahu is responsible for Hamas having the ability to do that despicable act; he gave permission for release of funds and the ability to represent them in order to provide a counterbalance to the West Bank regime.
Nonetheless, the Palestinians have had their own bondage since 1967.
By the way, I have no disagreement with your characterization of the reaction of the South and your other statements. The sad truth is that we(USA) proclaim ourselves as the guardian of democracy but we don’t even teach our children about the abuses that was unleashed on the Slaves and the Native Americans throughout the years in our public schools... I can’t even imagine what it’s like in charter schools.
I majored in Geography with emphasis on the Middle East and North Africa with a minor in Recent American History back in the early 70’s. Very little has changed in the Middle East since then but a ton has been accomplished to move the needle for Blacks in America.
As long as Saudi Arabia is “hands off”, the balance of power will remain intact.
As an aside, my favorite History Professor had us read: ‘Soul on Ice’, ‘Autobiography of Malcolm X’, ‘One Flew Over the Cuckoo Nest’, ‘Trout Fishing in America’, and a few others that actually put recent history in perspective of a controlled population. Even 50 years ago we had idealistic professors who were not afraid to give protected white kids a true education.
Peace