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Joe's avatar

While, in general, it is usually not expressed as hatefully as in the examples you give above, it seems as though there’s a percentage of people in every racial group who abhor the idea of racial mixing. Here in Detroit, my black wife (I’m white) has more than once been accosted and accused with something along the line of: “What’s the matter with you? You couldn’t find yourself a black man?”

Great writing!

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David Muccigrosso's avatar

Same boat here. Boo gets shit like that from time to time. But only when I’m not around, ofc.

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Discrete Music's avatar

“Race traitor.”

That’s straight out of Himmler.

On Twitter, nobody knows you’re a loser, it’s small comfort to know that these people couldn’t say this stuff in public without the other 94% shouting them down.

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Diana G.Pinto's avatar

I’m so sorry to read this. In my experience in Europe, it feels very different. Interracial couples are common, and I don’t see people being bothered by it. That contrast makes it even more shocking to me that such hostility still exists in the U.S.

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David Muccigrosso's avatar

I think in another century or so we’ll racially resemble Brazil — there will still be gradations of color and people on both ends of the bell curve, but it’ll be a lot smoother and a fatter bell curve.

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Steve QJ's avatar

Can't happen quickly enough. I can't wait until this particular brand of stupidity is done with.

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Mark C Still's avatar

"Racism is dying. It is dying because it’s too stupid and too wretched to survive."

I love this.

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ClemenceDane's avatar

The only thing that offends me in this situation is the spelling of Alicia with a "y"

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Steve QJ's avatar

Haha, my first thought was the r/tragedeigh reddit. Why do parents do this to their children??

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ClemenceDane's avatar

Love that subreddit! And I guess Alycia is probably the least of the horrors there

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Carol Shetler's avatar

I think that spelling of Alycia is very attractive. Just my two cents..

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ClemenceDane's avatar

To each her own

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Matt's avatar

I must admit I have no idea what the "smooth-skinned" remark is about.

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Steve QJ's avatar

I think the guy who wrote it has a little soul searching to do...😅

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Carol Shetler's avatar

I think it is because many black men have very prominent stubble when they shave so they don't appear "smooth-skinned".

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Peaceful Dave's avatar

America is a very big country and this stuff isn't universal. I see interracial couples every day, and not just my friends. People pay little to no attention it is such a common sight.

Having said that, perhaps it is the internet algorithm that pushes things at us that make humanity look worse than how it looks when I walk out my door.

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Carol Shetler's avatar

Anything I can do to help bury racism in a stone cold grave, I will do.

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Deevon "Wes" La Rue's avatar

Married while interracial is one of the reasons why we left the U.S, particularly Florida. While we didn't experience the trolls on social media, it was the glares we would receive just being out together. It didn't matter if we were on a date or getting groceries, that southern racism stared us down and wished it had a moment alone with us. We don't get any static here in Mexico, it's beautiful. Wonderful article sir!

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Peaceful Dave's avatar

I think that people confuse "race" with cultural/subcultural behavior.

I have quite a few friends who are black. They choose to live in neighborhoods that are predominantly white. They are not self hating racists, they want to be away from common subculture negatives. Thomas Sowell's book "Black Rednecks and White Liberals" has interesting thoughts on why that negativity isn't really about race, although the current obsession with "identity" may fuel it.

When a group that is culturally incompatible moves into an area in large enough numbers to make a stink, people often see it as a matter of race. Ask the long term residents of London or some cities in the US how diversity it working out for them and if they won't be arrested for saying it they probably will have a negative response. Not a problem until it's on a large enough scale to negatively affect their lives.

I have always had neighbors who were black people. Good neighbors, but not in a "black neighborhood."

Most of my friends who are black men have wives who are white women. Most of my friends who are white men with interracial marriages have Asian wives. That could be because I have an Asian wife. Sometimes there are accusations of "yellow fever." In my experience, people fall in love with the person and race/ethnicity is not the issue. Even if it was, it's none of my business who others love.

At last, I get to so called race mixing. There are people that I know who worry about "the replacement." For some, they are indeed racists, but it may be rooted in not wanting their country to change into a culture that is hostile to their culture. So they see mass migration and watering down their race as a threat to them and their culture. I worry that that will give rise to setting back improvement in race relations that I've witnessed during my lifetime. The current drone of "destroy whiteness" is fuel on that fire.

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Steve QJ's avatar

"For some, they are indeed racists, but it may be rooted in not wanting their country to change into a culture that is hostile to their culture"

I must say, I find this conflation of skin colour and "hostile culture" very frustrating. And I've yet to have someone explain what they mean when they say "their culture."

If we're speaking about specific things like women wearing burqas, say, I actually agree completely with countries that ban them. If Western women are expected to cover their hair when they visit certain Muslim countries, then I think it's perfectly reasonable that Muslim women are expected to reveal their faces when in Western countries. I have no problem with respect for cultural norms.

But this "hostile culture" thing is very often just a way to say "I don't want too many brown people around, no matter how they behave" without having to say it.

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Peaceful Dave's avatar

In some cases, but not in others. I frequently see paying attention to them, even though there is still bad feelings toward Muslims after 9/11.

Modestly dressed women and grown men harassing young girls is a different matter.

https://x.com/Basil_TGMD/status/1959697326995562814?t=xkggj5HqCjRzKOZU2yCv_g&s=19

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Billy5959's avatar

Londoner here! "Long-term resident" too. Also White British, as it happens. The weird American Right thing, where you have these media stories about London being "ruined" by immigrant culture - especially by the many Londoners who are Muslims? And the trope that "long-term residents" (always means us White people) are living in fear/fleeing the city? It is all, as you Americans say, total bullshit.

The only British people peddling that bullshit now were the kind peddling the same stuff about Afro-Caribbean Londoners, Irish Londoners, Jewish Londoners, back in the day. The rest of us just get on with our multi-racial lives together, with our politically moderate (so so boring) British Mayor, who actually likes the city and tries to represent all of us (he's the British Muslim guy that Trump hates, which explains a lot of the untruthful American commentary).

We are a world city, built on the work of generations of immigrants, we have extremes of wealth and poverty, we have a young population and lots of housing problems, yes we have some crime. But London is one of the safest cities in Europe, and to me, the best city anywhere. Come visit!

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Steve QJ's avatar

"And the trope that "long-term residents" (always means us White people) are living in fear/fleeing the city? It is all, as you Americans say, total bullshit."

THANKYOU!! I'm so sick of seeing this trope. It's amazing how confidently people who have never been to England, never mind London, parrot it. We have good old Elon Musk and his racist propaganda machine to thank for that.

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Peaceful Dave's avatar

Yes, the politically motivated do tell tall tales. Thanks for your perspective as a local.

It's been years since I've been there. Good to hear that it is not as dire as I've been led to believe.

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Carol Shetler's avatar

Reference that last paragraph: those are some of the many reasons I am coming "across the pond" for a short visit in December. I am also visiting friends and looking forward to some awestruck gaping at your fabulous architecture: Westminster Abbey, Windsor Castle and Wimbledon (not for the architecture but for the tennis museum), just to highlight the top 3.

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Billy5959's avatar

Thanks Carol! I recommend the Museum of London Docklands for the social history of London as a world city. My favourite old church is St Bartholomew's the Great, Smithfields so much history in one little place. Enjoy our new Elizabeth Line metro, it has really changed how Londoners get about - you can now get to historic places like Woolwich without fuss. Also go for a curry in Whitechapel. My American friends always enjoy a boat trip on the Thames but it might be a bit chilly in December! We love you all to visit.

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